Resident original Correspondence
I saw the notice on Denning's Mews.
The active travel officer explained:
"TRO notice of proposal (number 11) – This is a notice of proposals, advertising the fact the CYC proposes to introduce double yellow lines on Dennings' Mews for the whole length of the street (see item 1b on the notice). It invites people who want to make representations about this proposal to send them at the highway.regulation@york.gov.uk email address or by post to West Offices."
Looking at the notice it says, "...at any time".
Will these double yellows be like those at the Deangate end of Minster Yard
https://maps.app.goo.gl/cW4pMh5iXeHmUpFR7
Will they mean no stopping by any vehicle for any reason? Ie no picking up, no setting down, no I'm just delivering a take out to a resident/dropping off a parcel...?
Will anyone be permitted to wait here? Royal Mail?
If the answer is 'The change will mean no stopping for anyone at any time for any reason' I am in favour of this type of double yellows.
I look forward to hearing from you
Officers Response
I can confirm that the proposal for Denning’s Mews is for a ‘No Waiting at any time’ restriction, this is different from the area on Deangate, which also has No Loading at any time restriction.
The restriction on Denning’s Mews does allow for vehicles to wait whilst undertaking loading activities, if a CEO witnessed a vehicle parked on the restriction, they would need to witness loading activities been undertaken (movement to/from the vehicle) to not issue a penalty charge notice. A ‘No Waiting at any time’ restriction does allow for a vehicle displaying a blue badge to park for three hours.
I hope that this helps to clarify the situation.
Please can you confirm if you would like to maintain your objection to the proposal.
Residents Formal Objection
Thank you for your time and patience.
I object to the no waiting at any time double yellows the limitations of which you explained to me. (Thank you for the text in double quotes below)
"I can confirm that the proposal for Denning’s Mews is for a ‘No Waiting at any time’ restriction, this is different from the area on Deangate, which also has No Loading at any time restriction.
The restriction on Denning’s Mews does allow for vehicles to wait whilst undertaking loading activities, if a CEO witnessed a vehicle parked on the restriction, they would need to witness loading activities been undertaken (movement to/from the vehicle) to not issue a penalty charge notice. A ‘No Waiting at any time’ restriction does allow for a vehicle displaying a blue badge to park for three hours."
These do not go far enough. They will not keep active travellers safe from motor vehicle movements. They will not protect the (likely) thousands of non-motorised users between Crichton Ave and the spiral and Crichton Ave and Wigginton Road southbound pavement, from other deleterious effects of the presence of motor vehicles in Denning's Mews.
They do not address the dangers I have seen, current abuses I haven't, and circumventions road users will practise and justify in future.
When a wide vehicle - for example the horse and cart I have experienced since the removal of the post at the top of the spiral using Foss Islands Path and the link over Denning's Mews to/from Crichton Avenue - is in situ, or a combination of users - a family group, or an individual - a child weaving to and from over the spiral, etc, other non-motorised users need to wait at the top till it is possible and safe to proceed.
If the operators of other vehicles stop on Denning's Mews on the spiral side they may obstruct the access to/from the spiral and/or limit where people heading for Foss Islands Path can wait. If non-motorised users need to wait to proceed down the spiral they are at real risk from being hit by vehicles (including cycles) turning in to Denning's Mews.
The proposed lines will not deter or stop the parents/carers who use the Mews to pick up pupils after school.
All vehicles, no matter, how short the stay will obstruct the view of non-motorised users coming up, heading for, the spiral.
Any vehicle stopped on Denning's Mews will make it difficult for the drivers of other motor vehicles to turn and position themselves to leave using the marked lane and lights. It will be more time consuming. It will involve myriad small movements. These will put all users especially of non-motorised active travel modes at real risk of being hit and from exposure to air pollution.
I believe no waiting, no stopping, for anyone, at any time, for any reason, restrictions are required.